SOMEDAY Tongsheng Main Gear (bearing incl) for TSDZ2 Electric Bicycle Central Mid Motor Straight Tooth Helical Tooth. I’ve never fitted the double chainring, although I know people who have done it successfully, but they have had to limit the gear range on the rear cassette. The battery I want to use is, ￡147.48 51％ Off | New Arrival Mini Bottle eBike Battery 48V 36V 10.5Ah 9Ah 7Ah With Samsung/Sanyo Li-ion Cell for 750W 500W 350W 250W Bafang Motorhttps://a.aliexpress.com/_BOAeDU, As I understand it, 48V will run cooler and draw less current, so give more mileage. You will need to purchase the 750w 52v TSDZ2. I am planing on fitting a TSDZ2 to my 2010 specialized hard rock pro disc mtb. I think I’ve been reading in general that ebike motors shouldn’t exceed 200 degrees. Responsive. E.g the use of nylon gears getting brittle in cold temps. Okfeet has up to 500 watt, 48 volt (which I also need). I have not seen any other marks or names that would indicate what kind of brakes it is for.Have you figured this out and can help me? The bottom bracket is a standard Shimano cartridge-type which suggests the Tongsheng should fit. Personally I think the 36v 500w is more than adequate. Assuming paring down the plastic and using a low profile fixing (pop rivet perhaps?) Specifically, if the torque I generate with my right leg is much less than my left, will the sensor change the level of assist between pedal strokes? As far a battery consumption goes the 48v version wasn’t noticeably more or less efficient than the 36v. I can barely hear the TSDZ2. I haven’t had a chance to try out the programming yet, but there is a version of the firmware available where you can use the standard displays (although you will not have all the functionality and programming options as using a KT-LCD3 display). With which I do not know what difference there is between an engine without cutting brakes and with them.Well, see if you can give me a hand.Thank you very much in advance.Regards. The crank arms supplied with the kit are 170mm, but the motor will take Bafang or Shimano Steps crank arms. Hello,I saw that there are some differences between motors, some are showing they are 4000rpm, some are showing 4500rpm at the same voltage, so for example 52v 4000rpm and 52v 4500 rpm, do you know what is the difference between these motors? https://www.thebikelist.co.uk/scott/sub-comfort-10-menThank you in advance. Brand New. The other option is to have a chat with Jimmy at ebikebatteries.co.uk. Hi Tony, many thanks for the info. I’m however still not out of the woods yet. I plan to use a 17.5ah samsung cell 48v battery ,on the 750w version. Let me know how you get on with the OS Firmware. Just can not press pedals with full force without filing pain in my back. I also converted a bike with the Alfine 8 using a 1000w Bafang BBSHD (and gearshift sensor) and a year on the bike and IGH is still going strong – video of me riding the bike. My own personal ebike uses a Shimano Steps E6100 motor – it’s much quieter than the Tongsheng, and also smoother and more efficient in operation. Thanks for super helpfulness.I finally got the motor kit tho work. I run 160mm cranks at present… can you recommend suppliers/a brand/type compatable with the Tongsheng square taper axle which would offer this size or even a shorter crank (say 155mm or 152mm)… I am 5′ 6″ – hence this crank choice…. It may be the internal cable routing housing that’s getting in the way. It seems that the problem is with the electric board of the motor? I mean, it seems that they all go with the TSDZ2 marks only? I love the article. TongSheng TSDZ2 36V 250W 350W 48V 500W Torque Sensored DIY eBike Mid Drive Crank Motor Kit Electric Bike Central Motor Conversion Kit and Optional 36V 58V Batteries $1,089.00 $ 1,089 . If you need any more info, please let me know. The Gazelle City Bike has a Thompson bottom bracket (which is 40mm diameter I think) you did well to install the TSDZ2 successfully. Add to Wishlist. Are there any other torque sensing kits that I could purchase? Hi Dan, I come across your post by chance (I do not have alerts).I have now been using the TSDZ2 52V for 8 months or so and despite the issue that I described back then, I am pretty happy with it. tongsheng tsdz2 - 500w - 48v - mid drive ebike kit. Thanks for such a great source of information. Net price €323.53 VAT €61.47 *. I would prefer a slightly more powerful version of the TSDZ2, because I live on a hill. The battery connection is usually red (male) and black (female) bullet connectors. Thank you for your help Tony. Any advice?All the best Victor. Torque sensor faults usually manifest differently such as erratic or inconsistent assist when pedalling (sometimes with the power surging). The torque sensing system may not suit everyone, as you will still need to put a fair amount of effort in for the pedal assist to work. The chain ring protector on the BBS02 is plastic and the one on the TSDZ2 is metal. Hello Tony and thanks for an other great review.I am concidering the Bafang og the Tongsheng, but i have concerns about their use in cold weather. hello,I have purchased and installed this drive and is working great with my cube aim pro. Can you let me know where your LBS said the filing needed to be done, it’s possible that there are slight burrs / protrusions inside the bottom bracket shell, where the various tubes converge – filing these down to facilitate installation is quite normal. If you line one of the pedal crank arms up with the chainstay and while holding the chainstay press inwards on the crank arm. Let me know if you upgrade and feel free to share your thoughts here. We kindly ask you to make use of our contact form and we will contact you as soon as possible.Thank you for your understanding, your ENERprof team. My Gazelle city bike has an incompatible bracket crankshaft diameter. I am reaching only about 600 miles on it, so the parts and bearings couldnt be wearing out yet i think…. Hi Tony thanks for the great resources on your site. Once again thanks for the fast respons and help. Thank you for you positive comments, glad you have found some useful info here. Assuming you were consuming a constant 15 watt hours per mile (which is unlikely) you would have a range of 96 kms (with the 52v 17.5ah battery). The main difference between these two motors is the pedal assist. If you need any more information, please let me know. There are actually only 2 different types of TSDZ2 motor ( if we disregard the coaster brake version for now) 36V and 48V motors. I’ll get back to you in the next couple of days. As far a the squeaking noise is concerned, it could be caused by a number of things: Premature bearing wear is relatively rare, but not unheard of. The motor will reduce the clearance beneath the bottom bracket by roughly 3 inches – it really depends on the kind of trails and jumps you’re going to be tackling. I do have some photographs from a French reader, who did a similar conversion using the Tongsheng on a full suspension mountain bike with a wide pressfit bottom bracket. US $200.00-$330.00 / Set. Here is the link to the post on the OS firmware website. $310.00 $315.00. Hello,I’m planning to convert my road bike (bullhorn handles) with this motor in 500W option.What would be the smallest battery i could use with it? This quality kit is a perfect solution to turn your ordinary bike into a powerful ebike. Or the battery, or the motor, or some cabel… To bad China is not around the corner of my house…. It’s not a problem I’ve come across before. I have used the VLCD6 on a few builds and it always seems to be fairly accurate. Anything else I should consider? AU $507.05 - 612.45 / Piece. I use em3ev batteries with Samsung 35E cells (I made two mounts for me and my g/f, 17Ah and 27Ah or so). Thanks kind reply.I know another ISIS BB kit LIFT MTB and GNG electric.Those are pricy compare with big 2 brands.And I’m looking for a torque sensor type.I decide to wait next Gens. You will need the USB programming lead and software. If you have any questions relating to the Tongsheng motor, please feel free to leave a comment below. I think I will go to my nearest bike-mechanical to test the battery and maybe also test the kit with an other battery. Wha concerns me is if the rather heavy motor at the very end of the boom will negatively affect the bikes handling. Hello Tony, I have a few questions if you don’t mind. Here is a link to the TSDZ2 (with battery options) on eBay UK. Evaluations will be activated after verification. I got it on the Ebird store. Any advise/help on this? Tongsheng TSDZ2 Installation Manual; Tongsheng TSDZ2 VLCD5 Display manual; Tongsheng TSDZ2 VLCD6 Display Manual; Tongsheng TSDZ2 XH-18 Display Manual; Electric Bikes. so far, but I absolutely love it. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for tsdz2 tongsheng VLCD6 LCD display for TSDZ2 electric bicycle central mid motor at the best online prices at eBay! It’s still available from some sellers on eBay and independent retailers. How does the TSDZ2 fair against the Bafang mid-drive? I can buy a bare shimano alfine 11 speed hub from a German on-line seller for 218 E versus approx $600 at home. I even managed to change a vlcd 5 to a a smaller vlcd6. Although I haven’t worked on a bike with the Sturmey Archer RX-RK5, I believe it’s quite reliable and okay to use with a mid-drive motor. I also bought the Bafang crank arm, indeed much better than the original (less knee pain), though I feel the overall bottom bracket machinery is nothing close to a real bike and I sometimes think back to my original bike where I could stand on the pedal and put all my weight on it (I try not to do it cause I know the torque sensor is a weak part that could break). EM3EV should provide you with the connectors you require. Does this feature make it worthwhile to buy the Tongsheng TSDZ2 motor kit? The torque sensing pedal assist works really well, and having ridden Bosch e-bikes, I would say the power delivery is very similar. 1/6. If it was a choice between the XH18 and VLCD5 I would go with the LCD5. please excuse if my words sound a bit strange, I’m not native english speaking. I’ve also read on a forum somewhere of the shaft extenders failing, whether these are isolated cases or not it’s hard to say. Would I correct in thinking that a 48V version of the 250W Tosheng would operate at a lower amperage and therefore potentially extend the life of the controller (and other parts)? The 500w controller will work just fine, but if you want the higher power you will need to reprogram it using the opensource software. Original TongSheng New Torque sensor for TSDZ2 36V/48V mid motor Torque sensor. Hi Tony,Thanks so very much for this website and all the informative replies to comments!I’m planning to buy the Tongsheng 48v500wa with the water bottle style battery 48v10ah so that I can pull my son on the carrier from kindergarten up the hill back home.I’m checking my bike specs and I can’t see what kind of bottom bracket it has and wether it’s compatible with the TSD.This is my bike: https://www.cube.eu/en/2019/bikes/women/mountainbike/access-ws/cube-access-ws-pro-allroad-auberginenrose-2019/, I saw a comment with a cube that had the “difficult” kind of bottom bracket but I have no idea if mine does too.Will it mainly work? Did you find any solution for this problem? If you required more range, you could purchase a spare and keep it in a rucksack for longer days in the saddle. They took a couple of days to get used to, but now I couldn’t imagine riding without them. Because I have a female model, unfortunately there is little space for the battery. I need a 8-pin connector in order to flash the software. The higher value will mean less pedalling force is required to active the motor. Personally I think the 250w offers enough power to cope comfortably with moderate climbs of 10%, I have gone up hills as steep as 20% and still had to put a fair bit of my own power through the pedals to keep the motor going. And why would it be that the battery indication does not work in my case?Kind regards from Belgium,Eddy. Maybe little more of a metal sound but that’s not a bad thing, I’ll guess?I’m going to contact the seller and hear what they say, but the important thing is it the bike works again!Thank you for your help! The old one didn’t fit because it is in the region of the motor. The maximum current the standard controller will draw is 16A, the same applies to the 48v 750w model – 768w (nominal) 48v x 16A or 870w from a fully charged battery (54.4v). I am pretty tall and weight some 95 kgs.Could you please advice me – would be the “legal” version the solution or should I install the more powerful 36V/500w or 48V/750W? I have seen reports on forums of other people experiencing the same issues when there are lots of long climbs. I built up an Ebike in March and now my bike buddies have asked me to help them do the same. Sale. Unfortunately, there are no discernible markings on the motor to differentiate between models. You will need to remove the torque sensor to access it. Once the bike is converted to a TSDZ2, would it be okay to leave it outdoors -without the battery– or do you recommend that the whole bike be taken indoors? So it would be mostly that and occasional commute around town, but similar distances. I am in Malaysia. Tony, I installed a Tsdz2 on my wife’s full suspension mountain bike and it was working fine but now the assist is stuck at one level, possibly 5, even when it is set to 0. 3 product ratings - Dual CHAINRING CHAIN WHEEL 34T/42T for TONGSHENG TSDZ2 KIT MOTOR. The chainline should be okay with a 9-speed cassette – I’ve fitted the TSDZ2 with up to a 10-speed without any issue. I like to DIY, but also wish to have a lasting and safe motor kit in the view to do some long tour in Europe. The customer who I converted this trike for has done a few hundred km without any issues. Hi Tony,you are right, the axle 100/120mm are third party add on. I am considering adding a TSDZ2 to a Trek District 1 (or 2) Equipped. If you’re planning on longer rides you would be best to go for a 36v 17.5Ah as this will give you a range of around 100km. The minimum air temperature would have been about -1 or -2 Celsius (on occasion) and the motor performed perfectly. I haven’t heard of cold weather effecting the nylon gear. How do you rate this IGH for e-bikes. The motor is a bit more robust. Anecdotal reports suggest the motor runs slightly cooler and is more efficient with the OS firmware, so it’s definitely worth trying. You often see E Bike kits which appear to be the exact same kit with different Power Ratings. The TSDZ2 can be a pain if the cables are routed under the bottom bracket. Kind regards,Fabio. and Exp. So let’s compare a 36v at 17ah = 617 wh and a 48V at 13ah = 624 wh. Tongsheng TSDZ2 Resources. The only problem with that is the Shimano Deore M610 derailleur will go to about 40t max with the ‘b’ screw adjusted. I have been unable to find what the proper min/max threshold for high temperatures should be for this motor. Pity because when motors works fine, I have a lot of fun with the bikes!Thanks,Fabio. The 48v 500w motor combined with the 48v 12.5Ah battery should give you a fairly decent range. I’ve used a 34t chainring before, the only issue is caused by the offset chainline (in the lowest gear on the cassette). I’ve just serviced a Voodoo MTB fitted with a Bafang BBSHD and one of his batteries that is over 3 years old and 4000 miles in and it is still showing 54.4v on the multimeter! Great site by the way. Looking at the specs on the Trek website, it looks like the TSDZ2 should be okay. There’s a small circuit board on the torque sensor that’s likely be the culprit. I purchased a 750 w tsdz2, 48v 4000 rpm.So, now, I need to purchase a frame.I saw this model which has affordable price and your bottom support is 46x73mm. I have ridden a TSDZ2 equipped bike on some very wet Cornish back roads (standing water, large puddles) and never had any issues, I also have a customer who uses his as a daily commuter without any problems. 3.Real button force torque sensor, bilateral torque, with speed sensor function. I have watched some vids online were the VLDC5 display is used to configure the region (ie EU)and to increase the speed where the motor assistance cuts out. I bought it on Amazon as the 52v version but is there somwehre on the motor that can verify this? It is for me very difficult to decide which version I should buy. - Tongsheng + ENERpower - €385.00 *. This quality kit is a perfect solution to turn your ordinary bike into a powerful ebike. Smelling the motor / controller is always an easy indication of burning, it is quite a distinctive smell. Could be a better option.Ian. It’s a real shame and I hope it can be resolved. Hi Tony, thanks for your reply. The clearance between the motor and bottom bracket is very limited. So I bought a Shimano alfine chain tensoner and something which I call a derailleurpad to fit it to the frame.Now it all looked ok but there was a strange thing. I would think I should be able to apply power directly to the controller and test controller and motor. Isn’t it therefore wise to go for 48V battery instead of a 52V one?2. The first installation I did using a Tongsheng motor was on a Voodoo hardtail mountain bike, and I must say I was pleasantly surprised. So you would have substantially more battery life left in the 36v17ah battery. If you are planning on riding fairly flat / gently undulating terrain then the 250w will be fine and it will be legal – you may need to set the maximum speed manually inside the display parameters. For the right crank arm I will take the bafang one, with a low offset, so will reduce a bit the Q-factor. Hello Tony. If you have any more questions, please feel free to ask. Firstly thank you for all your work on this review it’s very helpful. Hi! With the 48V12.8AH battery I can drive about 80km it has LG cells.And SPD pedals were a great upgrade too very recommended for fast bikes. ?I mounted the battery pack under the down tube and it seems to work well. Yes, the locking of the motor can be a problem. Please let me know if you need any more advice. #contact-box { border: 1px solid red; padding: 10px 10px 0 10px; width: 90%; } #contact-box a { text-decoration: none !IMPORTANT; font-size: 16px !IMPORTANT; color: red !IMPORTANT; }, Dear Customers! I have been doing some research on the open source firmware available for the TSDZ2, and it appears that you can run a 24v – 52v battery just by modifying some of the parameters (on the existing controller). Firstly, the info on this thread is great so thank you. I have installed the 48v 350w / 500w and 750w versions. This motor is also 30% lighter than the Bafang equivalent, and the overall look is a little more discreet – below is a photo of an Orange full suspension mountain bike that a customer converted. They do the version with the VLCD6 and thumb throttle but it is shipped from China. Regarding the speed sensor – a 5mm gap between the magnet and sensor seems to be just right, much further or closer and it doesn’t work properly. I recieved my 17.5 ah battery from upp today and apart from the fact ill have to put one more insert into the frame a little higher up the downtube than where the standard one is ,I’m pleased to report that it is easily accomodated in the 17″ frame. Yes, that would just need the motor kit and battery. What do you think? TSDZ2 mid drive motor conversion kit with a torque sensor. Bafang 48V 500W Brushless Rear Hub Motor Conversion Kit 17.5Ah Battery E-Bike. In answer to your question, I would say that an 11-32 rear cassette combined with the stock 42t chainring should give you enough gear range for climbing hills with a sustained gradient of 8-10%, although you would need to rely on the higher power setting. 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