I think my main beef with the Guardian redesign, the way it was rolled-out, and the feedback handling, is quite easily justified in business terms. This seems to indicate that people simply quite like aggressive comments accusing others of being a Tory Troll and telling them, in no uncertain terms, to go away.
But there aren’t that many of those, and there aren’t a huge number of people taking part, compared to the number of people who are visiting the site and who are possibly taking away a negative experience because of the existing comment format.
It's all in bits, like. All I can say is that often it feels like the vitriol aimed at the people building the site is mostly from people who’ve never worked on or built a website serving that scale of audience, or can see any other point of view than their own. mmmmmmmmmmm, and there was I thinking the fact you feel entitled to me interrupting my family Sunday to give a line-by-line analysis of your comments about some design changes I didn't make, on a website I don't work for, says quite a bit too...? Surely the G should do a poll then? Then people will be unable to resist the urge to go back to talking about the news and chit-chatting. “The Guardian made sure that every anti-Corbyn articles published by The Guardian was closed for comments. All these comments are pulled from a database more often than not, it's not that gigantic task to sort them differently. This factor notwithstanding - I am not a UX expert, but am in the digital media business, and an avid message board / forum / blog / you name it user for years.
Like supporting both a flat and nested view or making it possible to see which threads have had new posts on them.
The purpose of Think Left is to present a view of politics from a left-wing perspective. “I decided that I had a responsibility to try to do something about it.
And then in 15 months the comment system will change and everyone will be defending to death the new design as if it had always been the main design. Because they are nigh well impossible to follow. You know, how this lot in 2008 were appalled with the new BBC News website which everybody was mourning when they redesigned it last year. I was looking at a Polly Toynbee thread last Thursday night. 18 comments; share; save; hide. Amongst the small sample of apparently deleted comments seen by The Daily Beast were several personal attacks on fellow commenters and a small number of racist or inflammatory remarks. 65. And the popularity of the Guardian boards compared to any other newspaper site suggests that I am not that unusual.
“I want to know how the mods are interpreting the community guidelines. According to the most vocal bit of feedback I ever received on my work at the Guardian, I’m just “some fuckwit in IT” who “got promoted and decided to change some thing.”, Read other recent posts about: But I never return to the threads. Lastly, you didn't address how the lessons learnt from the train wreck on a high traffic football blog were learnt? Those using the current system are concerned that their conversation and banter will get splintered and fragmented. It may be that a sizeable chunk of users decide to go elsewhere. Not that I'm against encouraging greater levels of interaction on websites, but sometimes it seems you can easily lose the active 'minority' in failed attempts to try and engage a bunch of people who never wanted to comment in the first place.
The future performance of the site (assuming the changes do have a detrimental effect on the threads***) is probably the only way to really find out.****. @Dan - “Only one thought - why do we have this wonderful ambition of a utopia where everyone comments on everything?”. No way to deal with in the name of inclusion. I went 5 years being a buyer and a web reader of the guardian before commenting.
Trying to get a wider range of commenters might be one way to improve that. 67. Which then makes it really hard for people in the unthreaded view to follow what is going on. I don't read them often enough or pay enough attention. War has broken out on the edge of Europe. I’ve often thought that some of the more fun bits to get involved in at the Guardian site were where the threads were more like an open IRC channel that just happened to be underneath a Guardian article. Our children deserve better. The wall between what’s private and what’s not is dissolving. We can follow, as well as lead. Guardian readers by design aren't conservative and from my experience know their stuff with regards to IT, if its a matter of a button being in a different place I doubt this would be an issue. You have no data at all of how many looked at how many comments so your justification is vapid. However, I wonder if the Guardian isn't shooting itself in the foot here. Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account.
I hate to say it but you piece includes a comment criticising threading from a regular commenter whose complaint wasn't threading but how amateur the effort was. Meanwhile what is the data regarding number of comments made? Sometimes I even comment on those articles. Secondly, the response system was a good idea. here’s someone on Twitter asking for them from a couple of days before the change for example, this lot in 2008 were appalled with the new BBC News website, I’ve even done conference talks about the methodology I used at the Guardian when doing it.
I’m fairly certain that the ability to skip past uninteresting sub-threads will be introduced in due course. Or simply plain and utter nonsense. © 2020 Guardian News & Media Limited or its affiliated companies. He gave examples of sites where the format worked. There are three choices: The default, last-in, first up; and then tabs for "Reader Picks" and "NYT Picks" for best/most interesting comments.
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